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Post: #136  Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, going back to a couple of itsems with some new photographs to show what I'm talking about.
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| Are you sure they didn't add an 'S' to the air intakes? Hard to tell from that picture. |
First picture I attached here is bottom view orthographic of the PAK-FA, F-22, and F-35. The YF-23 is there as well, but only to give you an idea of scale. Like I said, the PAK-FA is fucking huge.
Anyways, look at the intakes and nozzles on the PAK-FA and then at the same on the F-22. Notice how the nozzles are strait in-line with the nozzels on the PAK-FA but on the F-22 the intakes are offset outboard from the nozzles by the full width of the nozzles? If you take that and the limited space in the conventional engine nacelle design of the PAK-FA and it's landing gear arrangment you'll see that there isn't any preactical way to put an "s" bend in the PAK-FA at all.
In the second picture I've attached you'll see more of why I think the PAK-FA isn't a stealth aircraft at all. Notice on the F-22 how the wing is blended into the fuselage using blended curves? Look at the PAK-FA and it's just a damned near 90 degree angle from the wings into the fuselage, especially downward into the engine nacelles. Also, look at the fixed weapons station just outboard of the engines at the wingroot. The F-22's external mountings for stores are completely removed when it's in a 'clean" configuration to remove drag and further reduce RCS. The Russians designed in a permanent weapons pylon, so yet another surface for radar to bounce off this beast.
Really, the more I see of this aircraft the more and more I'm convinced this isn't a stealth anything or even really a true Gen 5 aircraft, but is really just a Gen 4.5 interceptor and Sukhoi is trying to CYA after all the rubles the Russians government has sunk into the project.
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US Federal Reserve takes step to boost recovery
The US Federal Reserve has taken a step towards boosting economic recovery, by saying it will use proceeds from its investments in mortgage securities to buy longer-term government debt.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-10924941
read: Printing more money out of thin air !
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| Post: #138 Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Americans certainly have an interesting take on fiscal policy...
Chradok, the Russian Air Force is planning on taking deliver of the new SU, it was on RT the other day, they're also hoping for export orders in order to keep the program affloat.
We're still waiting for the new JSF still, can't you guys hurry it up a little? hahaha
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| Post: #139 Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Americans certainly have an interesting take on fiscal policy...
Chradok, the Russian Air Force is planning on taking deliver of the new SU, it was on RT the other day, they're also hoping for export orders in order to keep the program affloat.
We're still waiting for the new JSF still, can't you guys hurry it up a little? hahaha
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| Post: #140 Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:50 am Post subject: |
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| Rampage wrote: |
US Federal Reserve takes step to boost recovery
The US Federal Reserve has taken a step towards boosting economic recovery, by saying it will use proceeds from its investments in mortgage securities to buy longer-term government debt.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-10924941
read: Printing more money out of thin air !
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I can now conclude that you're a total fucking idiot, Ramp. By all mean, do quote where in that article it says the Fed plans to print more money. Seriously, do you even read past the headline, you dumb mother fucker?
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| Americans certainly have an interesting take on fiscal policy... |
It's really pretty standard stuff, Crimson. Fed is planning on issuing T-bills and using profits from investments/repayment of debts owed to it along with jiggling the Fed interest rate to keep inflation away which in turn stimulates large scale economic growth (i.e. large scale multi-billion dollar capital investment and corporate spending). It's the same thing pretty much every first world, western government's treasury does in situations like this. Contrary to what Ramptard there says, this has absolutely nothing to do with printing more money.
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| Chradok, the Russian Air Force is planning on taking deliver of the new SU, it was on RT the other day, they're also hoping for export orders in order to keep the program affloat. |
Yeah, the Russians are playing it smart and allowing for export of the PAK-FA, but the thing is, will anyone actually buy it and if they do buy will they purchase in meaningful numbers enough to keep the assembly line open long enough to produce enough aircraft to offset the R&D bill. The big thing you have to keep in mind is that while the PAK-FA was meant to be the Russian's answer for a Gen 5 fighter, it really isn't much more than a low observable Gen 4.5 aircraft. It's pretty much the same thing that happens with Russian attempts to maintain parity with us, they can get the airframe and power plants to keep up with the aeronautic side, but their electronics are still 10-20 years behind us. So basically the PAK-FA is about equivalent to a an F-22 retrofitted with an F-15's avionics and firecontrol. For the projected cost of the PAK-FA the Su-27 family is a better buy, more aircraft for your money.
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| We're still waiting for the new JSF still, can't you guys hurry it up a little? |
We're waiting on it too, man. And thanmks to SecDef Gates, President Obama, and the usual Senate/House shenanigans the Development Hell part of the F-35's design cycle is about to get a hell of a lot worse. Expect final production prices to be around 10-20% more than the cost of an F-22 depending on JSW varient by the time they actually start getting the fucking things into service. Even then, just the electronics suite the F-35 is packing is worth it.
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| Post: #141 Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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The problem the Fed has in the US of A is that it hasn't a lot room left to move interest rates downward...
Australia on the other-hand, ours are headed upward over the longer term, we could lend you guys Peter Costello if you want or maybe even Paul Keating...
Not overly impressed with the Pak-Fa, i think only India will be buying it, it is going to be far too expensive for many of Russia's normal export markets.
Indeed the full spec MiG and Su range offer far better value for money.
Considering the extraordinary price we just paid of the Super Hornets and new helicopters the JSF had better be solid gold with platinum plated for the additional price they'll be asking.
We're not made of money you know!
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